当我们仰望天空时看见什么？

剧情：格鲁吉亚库塔伊西一所学校门口的偶遇。Lisa和Giorgi撞到了一起，一本书掉在了地上。他们显然辨不清方向糊里糊涂或惊惶失措，甚至没有告诉对方自己的名字，就安排了一次约会。这是男女之间一见面就产生爱..展开

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为辅助大家理解与需要，配合中字翻译版把原文贴出来，导演回复中个别语句笔误已更正。

中字翻译见推送链接：

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/vNTgn1hkangju5cgFrpZ0w【1】

In PingYao International Film Festival, the introduction of your film and some of the behaviors in the film are very interesting. You are always an «absent presence» to remind the audience that although you did not appear, you emphasize it is absolutely your own artistic work. Is this interesting interaction a little joke you made to the audience? Or do you want to remind the audience of some other meanings ?Now I’m working on a film with an invisible character, a man with no body but with a voice and I try to understand how I shall film him. I intend to film this character exactly the way I film the other ‘visible’ ones but I still don’t know how it will work and if it’s possible so every time I have a possibility to try things out I try to do it. Also I had a feeling not being visible in front of the camera.【2】

Actually, for the audience, if you don’t know enough about the global history, intellectual history, civilization history, football history, and the common sense of the 20th century, it’s difficult to fully understand some of your ideas in the film. Then after watching the film, we have to go to make up the lesson in order to better understand your meaning. Do you think the audience will have some kind of loss or other feelings because they don’t understand your film?Myself I’m definitely not an intellectual, I consider most of the people smarter and better educated than I am so I don’t think anyone will have a problem to understand the film I made. Filmmakers thinking they are smarter than the people who will watch their film make mostly terrible films.There are films made in Hollywood for example, you watch them and you feel insulted because you feel people behind this film consider you as dumb and silly person but in the end it’s always other way around.【3】

What emotion do you most want to express to the audience? My understanding is the importance of “love”. And you are a great director, even if these details are not familiar to the public , we can still feel your charm as an auteur-director.I can’t say I know from the beginning exact emotions or ideas I want to share with the film. Of course there are some, but as I have experienced it, sometimes you think that you feel and think one thing but actually it’s completely different – and when you make a film that’s what you learn, you may think you want to make a comedy with fun and happiness but it’s full of sadness or the other way around – so it’s about trust, you have to trust the work you do.【4】

About cinematography: you use a lot of close shot and close-up in the film, although it looks like a zoom-in to some extent, but it actually gives people a feeling of paying attention to the portrait itself, very close to the person. But the perspective has always been polite and objective. Is this the attitude you maintain in filming? An attitude of keeping a proper distance from the subject.I think the distance is one of the most important tools while making a film. Let`s say physical distance - however do you go to the object or person you are filming physically is a decision which defines the character of the film, no_t_ only this of course but it makes big difference.When you show a close up or detail - you go with the camera and near or do you use a lens which allows you to stay bit away, this kind of decision is not only about how sharp or not sharp the background than appears and not only the feeling of being in the scene or being a spectator of the scene — it‘s also always a statement from the filmmakers — and there is no right or wrong, you just have to find your own distance.【5】

About the experience of watching the film: does the cue tone “close your eyes-3, 2, 1-open your eyes” put the audience into the dream of the movie or in reality?I have not thought about it this way — but I like it. You close your eyes here and open them somewhere else. Here Leo Messi still has only World Cup Silver — there it‘s Gold, here it’s hard to get your photo developed in Kutaisi — there we have a laboratory to develop 16mm film in the same town..I have to think more about the concept you propose. For me it was a game, a way to start a game with the audience, to go back to the time when cinema was related to magic and all the spectators felt like children.【6】-【未回答】

About the symbol of “football”: For Chinese audiences, they do not know much about the history of Georgia and its neighboring countries, but they do know a little about football. In the film, you treat football and football match as a big environment and event concerned by the collective, while emphasizing more on emotions between individuals. Does the «football» in the film have more symbols of the times and group significance?【7】

In this film, I can find some echoes of familiar texts. For example, the scene where an actor and an actress meet at a crossroads reminds me of poet Wislawa Szymborska’s poems like Love at First sight. A famous Chinese painter once drew a cartoon entitled Walk Left, Walk Right based on this poem.

The whole shot is so beautiful and poetic. In addition, the use of anthropomorphic objects in the film also enriched the color of some «surrealist» style. But it’s worth noting that the film’s tone is both realistic and fantastic. Do you find it’s contradictory? Or are you waiting for the audience to discover your design？ It is interesting that you mention Wislawa Szymborska. In Kutaisi, in the city where we made the film, on Galaktion Tabidze street you will find her poem written on the wall. That’s how I discovered her months before we started to shoot and I think it was important for the film.Now as you mention her name I understand how things invade you, become part of your life and even part of things you do without you consciously planning it. Where can I find the painting - Walk Left, Walk Right?My Idea while making the film was to give a space to things happenings, occasions which are considered unusual or impossible nowadays. All the things which seem to be magical are meant to be real – I don’t ask a tree to speak in my film because I want it to be a symbol for something else – it-’s- speaks in the film only because it can speak in our world to – I have never heard it but means nothing.【8】

Could you explain the meaning of the film’s title? My personal understanding is: the sky is something shared by all mankind, just as «love» is an emotion felt by people all over the world?Always when Leo Messi scores a goal he looks to the sky, I was always impressed by this gesture and his connection to the world above us. He has his own reasons to look up and so does everyone. It is a universal gesture with very private experience.For ages people were looking to the sky and seeing different things – now we are given in the school very precise answers about what is up there but my feeling is it will change again.【9】-（未回答 其实也不用答 完美忽略我的废话问题 默契）

Do you know much about the young directors in China? Which Chinese director’s works do you like best? 【10】

Is there any sequential connection between your new work and your previous works? We are really looking forward to seeing the previous works.While doing this film I tried to make a distance to the previous one, there is always a danger that you will find a comfortable way of working and start to repeat yourself but I also did not wanted to forbid myself something so I just decided to follow the wishes I had and now I see that there are more similarities between two films than I had planned but I also have no Problem with it – the film is very personal and apparently that is the way I feel in the very moment, I could make it differently but this is more sincere – sincere towards myself.【11】

It can be inferred from your work that you are familiar with film language, and you have a solid foundation of film history. When I watched it, I felt that you were trying to subvert the entirety of the form and take the film language as the representative of the language system. Can we understand it this way?I have always loved watching films but I am not a cinephile, I have seen some films but there are films someone who makes films has to have seen and I have not made it yet - I know many people around me who have seen and watch now more than me.For me filmmaking has become the way of living, that‘s what I do — I make films and I try to understand how it works, I have some tools and some knowledge, some experience but not much of any of it yet - so I make films and through doing it I try to understand it what it really means.【12】

The film is filled with many local compositions, and a large number of close-up shots and Close shots, which reflects a seemingly dynamic but static beauty. It feels like a return to the montage trend of early film history, and I personally use a word to describe it — 「photo montage」.

This is meant to emphasize the sense of photography, stillness, and immersion of a single frame/single shot, which together coherently make up countless paragraphs of the film. Together with the sound, the unique appearance form of this film is achieved, which will give people a real and cordial feeling of watching the film. Do you intend to return the freedom and randomness of film creation?I have a feeling that in first few years, when people started to make films in the beginning of the past century everything what can be done with a film was done. The thing is sometimes it‘s hidden, sometimes it’s just a second. It is so concentrated if you don‘t look very very closely it’s impossible to see.So they did everything - it‘s like they (the early filmmakers) planted a tree and this tree started to grow and it could have had many, hundreds of branches but the Industry started to follow only one branch saying this is cinema and everything else is everything what you want but not cinema, they call it experimental cinema, art house, autore cinema - and by doing it they exclude all the forms which don’t suit the hipe out of the daily life everything what does not have the usual length and does not tell a well understandable story is considerd to be less cinema, to be something strange, some kind of a monster - but we know this kind of mainstream cine is only one small branch of a huge tree, it is not even a big branch and it‘s important to climb all over this tree go also to the top of the tree that’s where you can see from that there are other trees too.【13】

Would you like to share with the audience some things that impressed you during the filming of this film?I was doing my previous film almost alone, this one we did in a bigger group and the difference is huge. I love both but before starting this one I had some concerns - regarding the possibility of making something personal while not being alone - apparently it‘s possible.Not just possible but it can be very beautiful when few people work together, everyone puts his or her personal and private things in the film and in the end it all can be one thing - one film.【14】

Do you think our way of «close reading» runs counter to your original intention of making this film? I was touched by the way you thought about the film and I think I have learned some new things about it so - thank you.

翻译、整理于2021/11/22

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为辅助大家理解与需要，配合中字翻译版把原文贴出来，导演回复中个别语句笔误已更正。

中字翻译见推送链接：

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/vNTgn1hkangju5cgFrpZ0w【1】

In PingYao International Film Festival, the introduction of your film and some of the behaviors in the film are very interesting. You are always an «absent presence» to remind the audience that although you did not appear, you emphasize it is absolutely your own artistic work. Is this interesting interaction a little joke you made to the audience? Or do you want to remind the audience of some other meanings ?Now I’m working on a film with an invisible character, a man with no body but with a voice and I try to understand how I shall film him. I intend to film this character exactly the way I film the other ‘visible’ ones but I still don’t know how it will work and if it’s possible so every time I have a possibility to try things out I try to do it. Also I had a feeling not being visible in front of the camera.【2】

Actually, for the audience, if you don’t know enough about the global history, intellectual history, civilization history, football history, and the common sense of the 20th century, it’s difficult to fully understand some of your ideas in the film. Then after watching the film, we have to go to make up the lesson in order to better understand your meaning. Do you think the audience will have some kind of loss or other feelings because they don’t understand your film?Myself I’m definitely not an intellectual, I consider most of the people smarter and better educated than I am so I don’t think anyone will have a problem to understand the film I made. Filmmakers thinking they are smarter than the people who will watch their film make mostly terrible films.There are films made in Hollywood for example, you watch them and you feel insulted because you feel people behind this film consider you as dumb and silly person but in the end it’s always other way around.【3】

What emotion do you most want to express to the audience? My understanding is the importance of “love”. And you are a great director, even if these details are not familiar to the public , we can still feel your charm as an auteur-director.I can’t say I know from the beginning exact emotions or ideas I want to share with the film. Of course there are some, but as I have experienced it, sometimes you think that you feel and think one thing but actually it’s completely different – and when you make a film that’s what you learn, you may think you want to make a comedy with fun and happiness but it’s full of sadness or the other way around – so it’s about trust, you have to trust the work you do.【4】

About cinematography: you use a lot of close shot and close-up in the film, although it looks like a zoom-in to some extent, but it actually gives people a feeling of paying attention to the portrait itself, very close to the person. But the perspective has always been polite and objective. Is this the attitude you maintain in filming? An attitude of keeping a proper distance from the subject.I think the distance is one of the most important tools while making a film. Let`s say physical distance - however do you go to the object or person you are filming physically is a decision which defines the character of the film, no_t_ only this of course but it makes big difference.When you show a close up or detail - you go with the camera and near or do you use a lens which allows you to stay bit away, this kind of decision is not only about how sharp or not sharp the background than appears and not only the feeling of being in the scene or being a spectator of the scene — it‘s also always a statement from the filmmakers — and there is no right or wrong, you just have to find your own distance.【5】

About the experience of watching the film: does the cue tone “close your eyes-3, 2, 1-open your eyes” put the audience into the dream of the movie or in reality?I have not thought about it this way — but I like it. You close your eyes here and open them somewhere else. Here Leo Messi still has only World Cup Silver — there it‘s Gold, here it’s hard to get your photo developed in Kutaisi — there we have a laboratory to develop 16mm film in the same town..I have to think more about the concept you propose. For me it was a game, a way to start a game with the audience, to go back to the time when cinema was related to magic and all the spectators felt like children.【6】-【未回答】

About the symbol of “football”: For Chinese audiences, they do not know much about the history of Georgia and its neighboring countries, but they do know a little about football. In the film, you treat football and football match as a big environment and event concerned by the collective, while emphasizing more on emotions between individuals. Does the «football» in the film have more symbols of the times and group significance?【7】

In this film, I can find some echoes of familiar texts. For example, the scene where an actor and an actress meet at a crossroads reminds me of poet Wislawa Szymborska’s poems like Love at First sight. A famous Chinese painter once drew a cartoon entitled Walk Left, Walk Right based on this poem.

The whole shot is so beautiful and poetic. In addition, the use of anthropomorphic objects in the film also enriched the color of some «surrealist» style. But it’s worth noting that the film’s tone is both realistic and fantastic. Do you find it’s contradictory? Or are you waiting for the audience to discover your design？ It is interesting that you mention Wislawa Szymborska. In Kutaisi, in the city where we made the film, on Galaktion Tabidze street you will find her poem written on the wall. That’s how I discovered her months before we started to shoot and I think it was important for the film.Now as you mention her name I understand how things invade you, become part of your life and even part of things you do without you consciously planning it. Where can I find the painting - Walk Left, Walk Right?My Idea while making the film was to give a space to things happenings, occasions which are considered unusual or impossible nowadays. All the things which seem to be magical are meant to be real – I don’t ask a tree to speak in my film because I want it to be a symbol for something else – it-’s- speaks in the film only because it can speak in our world to – I have never heard it but means nothing.【8】

Could you explain the meaning of the film’s title? My personal understanding is: the sky is something shared by all mankind, just as «love» is an emotion felt by people all over the world?Always when Leo Messi scores a goal he looks to the sky, I was always impressed by this gesture and his connection to the world above us. He has his own reasons to look up and so does everyone. It is a universal gesture with very private experience.For ages people were looking to the sky and seeing different things – now we are given in the school very precise answers about what is up there but my feeling is it will change again.【9】-（未回答 其实也不用答 完美忽略我的废话问题 默契）

Do you know much about the young directors in China? Which Chinese director’s works do you like best? 【10】

Is there any sequential connection between your new work and your previous works? We are really looking forward to seeing the previous works.While doing this film I tried to make a distance to the previous one, there is always a danger that you will find a comfortable way of working and start to repeat yourself but I also did not wanted to forbid myself something so I just decided to follow the wishes I had and now I see that there are more similarities between two films than I had planned but I also have no Problem with it – the film is very personal and apparently that is the way I feel in the very moment, I could make it differently but this is more sincere – sincere towards myself.【11】

It can be inferred from your work that you are familiar with film language, and you have a solid foundation of film history. When I watched it, I felt that you were trying to subvert the entirety of the form and take the film language as the representative of the language system. Can we understand it this way?I have always loved watching films but I am not a cinephile, I have seen some films but there are films someone who makes films has to have seen and I have not made it yet - I know many people around me who have seen and watch now more than me.For me filmmaking has become the way of living, that‘s what I do — I make films and I try to understand how it works, I have some tools and some knowledge, some experience but not much of any of it yet - so I make films and through doing it I try to understand it what it really means.【12】

The film is filled with many local compositions, and a large number of close-up shots and Close shots, which reflects a seemingly dynamic but static beauty. It feels like a return to the montage trend of early film history, and I personally use a word to describe it — 「photo montage」.

This is meant to emphasize the sense of photography, stillness, and immersion of a single frame/single shot, which together coherently make up countless paragraphs of the film. Together with the sound, the unique appearance form of this film is achieved, which will give people a real and cordial feeling of watching the film. Do you intend to return the freedom and randomness of film creation?I have a feeling that in first few years, when people started to make films in the beginning of the past century everything what can be done with a film was done. The thing is sometimes it‘s hidden, sometimes it’s just a second. It is so concentrated if you don‘t look very very closely it’s impossible to see.So they did everything - it‘s like they (the early filmmakers) planted a tree and this tree started to grow and it could have had many, hundreds of branches but the Industry started to follow only one branch saying this is cinema and everything else is everything what you want but not cinema, they call it experimental cinema, art house, autore cinema - and by doing it they exclude all the forms which don’t suit the hipe out of the daily life everything what does not have the usual length and does not tell a well understandable story is considerd to be less cinema, to be something strange, some kind of a monster - but we know this kind of mainstream cine is only one small branch of a huge tree, it is not even a big branch and it‘s important to climb all over this tree go also to the top of the tree that’s where you can see from that there are other trees too.【13】

Would you like to share with the audience some things that impressed you during the filming of this film?I was doing my previous film almost alone, this one we did in a bigger group and the difference is huge. I love both but before starting this one I had some concerns - regarding the possibility of making something personal while not being alone - apparently it‘s possible.Not just possible but it can be very beautiful when few people work together, everyone puts his or her personal and private things in the film and in the end it all can be one thing - one film.【14】

Do you think our way of «close reading» runs counter to your original intention of making this film? I was touched by the way you thought about the film and I think I have learned some new things about it so - thank you.

翻译、整理于2021/11/22

{else}格鲁吉亚库塔伊西一所学校门口的偶遇。Lisa和Giorgi撞到了一起，一本书掉在了地上。他们显然辨不清方向糊里糊涂或惊惶失措，甚至没有告诉对方自己的名字，就安排了一次约会。这是男女之间一见面就产生爱情对事物一见就产生了感情，就像被施了魔法一样，一切都开始变得生动起来：监控摄像头变成了邪恶的眼睛，排水管变成了神谕，他们闭上眼睛，然后-叮！这对恋人被诅咒了，注定第二天醒来后样子完全不同了改变得不成样子。但是，正是这个阻碍他们再次相遇的超自然障碍，变成他们进入一个完全由日常生活的魔力所统治的世界的门票-以简单的美、温柔的喜剧和对足球的热情，感染了年轻人和老年人，甚至是痰多的街边狗瓦尔迪。{end if}收起